I think a good dere in the real world is someone who can/has filled the role of the steryotype with no hestation yet can still fit in the outside world with no issue mostly, what do you all think a good irl dere is?
My ideal yandere ?
Well for the most part they are “normal” until they fall in love. Then they become lovesick/obsessed. It starts slow and gradually grows.
1. Stalking commences. This is info gathering which hopefully allows them to fall deeper in love the more they know.
2. Plotting and manipulation to win them over starts. Depending on their yan type this will impact their plans. Do they want to isolate me ? Do they want to train me ?
3. Possessive and jealous tendencies get overwhelming. Every man becomes a potential threat (cause I’m straight lol). They plot how to destroy the other men’s reputation, manipulate and guilt them, and so on. They plot to steal me away form the world either by sowing distrust in others, or kidnapping me, or whatever their plan. Then more drastic measures are taken if their previous plans fail.
4. Obsessive love peaks. They do grandiose displays of affection like a mural of just my pictures, a collection of my possessions, etc. This probably is some sort of assurance that everything is fine now that it’s just us. I get sent my favorite food, played my favorite songs, and other comforting activities. They say ”I’m your soulmate and everything is ok now that we have each other”.
They would go further than I would be willing to go. Because they would probably be able to detect my consent.
Id say real life Narcesists are the people who come closest to full out yanderes ... that and maybe fill the role of himederes
I feel like it would be people with bpd or/and aspd. Basically just anyone with a cluster B personality disorder so I suppose narcissists fit the profile.
interesting question, though i think it highly depends on the dere in question. deredere's and tsun i feel as though are one of the most common of the population, they fill their role well because they spend their entire life honing it or have little control over it until they discover what archetypes are and realize: "oh, that's what i am?"
with the mention of mental health, as someone who is in therapy i'll format that as an example of the way i would categorize most dere based on the ones i've known and met - these are broad assumptions however and open to criticism since this lacks context and this does not come close to covering every mental condition while tying it to all dere types.
Cluster A: Yangire, Yandere, Kamidere, Himedere
Cluster B: Yandere, Kuudere, Himedere, Tsundere, Kamidere, Dorodere, Mayadere
Cluster C: Dandere, Undere, Masodere
Developmental conditions / Autism or Neurodivergence / Learning disabled etc: Dandere, Kuudere, Deredere
a dere tends to branch out and develop themselves more when going through experiences and becoming jaded or having to use their dere type in a crisis situation. for example: if a yandere has had their heart broken once before, they become suspicious of others motives and their previous habit of delusion can come crashing down; recalling what had happened to them once before. they view the world in a different lens and subconsciously set a high, nearly unachievable standard for their beloved.
or - let's say a deredere is talking a very dear friend out of something drastic and serious, they hone their ability to be happy go lucky while completely ignoring their own feelings and emotions on the matter. it's no longer a matter of ignorance and more that of a well trained victim of situation.
"deredere, i really need you."
'again..?'
"okay, i'm coming!"
'i'm so tired.'